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Grumthorn starts an argument or two

Post by Grumthorn » 14 Nov 2006 15:46

I'm bored @ college. I propose to argue with you all about the following topics:

.999... = 1

and/or

There are no un-interesting numbers.

Both these statements are true.

Feel free to pick other non WoW, non religion-and-politics topics to argue with me about.
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Post by Ltuan » 14 Nov 2006 15:48

I aggree with the first two, but I dispute the third one...
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Post by Ixora » 14 Nov 2006 16:08

So you dispute the fact that 0.999...=1 ?
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Post by Grumthorn » 14 Nov 2006 16:15

Ixora wrote:So you dispute the fact that 0.999...=1 ?
I certainly don't.
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Post by Ixora » 14 Nov 2006 16:17

I was referring to Ltuan's post ;)
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Post by Stuvvie » 14 Nov 2006 16:18

I say lollies pwn other candy.

(not including real british toffee, it's not candy but godly)
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Post by Cyberia » 14 Nov 2006 16:35

Grumthorn wrote: .999... = 1
Apparently Blizzard have covered this.. :)
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Post by Grumthorn » 14 Nov 2006 16:42

Stuvvie wrote:I say lollies pwn other candy.

(not including real british toffee, it's not candy but godly)
In what sense is toffee British? I've seriously never heard of anyone laying claim to it as having a particular national origin.

I find lollypops to be very variable. I like the cheap cola flavoured ones but the expensive 'strawberries and cream' etc flavour ones are mank-tastic. Gimme a big tub of gummi bears or cola bottles and I'm a happy priest.
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Post by Grumthorn » 14 Nov 2006 16:47

Cyberia wrote:
Grumthorn wrote: .999... = 1
Apparently Blizzard have covered this.. :)
Showing that proof is valid (which it is) is actually trickier than it may at first seem.

Consider:

N = 9 +90 + 900 + 9000 + ....

10N = 90 + 900 + 9000 + ....

10N -N = (90 + 900 + 9000 + ....) - 9 -(90 + 900 + 9000 + ....)

9N = -9

N= -1 = 9+90 + 900 +9000 + ... ??????

which is obvious rubbish.

10G ingame for a cogent explanation of what the error is in the above.
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Post by Stuvvie » 14 Nov 2006 16:47

Well dunno if it's british from origin but I only know that my mates granny always still made the best toffee that I have ever tasted.

Overall for lollipops I stick with the standard strawberry, raspberry, lemon and orange flavours.

Cola flavoured and such are awefull imho, when I think about Cola I imagine a glass sprinkling cleaning up rusted coins and not some dull flavour like with lollies.
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Post by Jinxo » 14 Nov 2006 16:48

But would you rather have a lollie or a drumstick lollie?

Also are fruit salad sweets (sure the older people will remember them) better than blackjacks?

Starbursts v Opel Fruits, I swear they taste different these days since being renamed.

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Post by Stuvvie » 14 Nov 2006 16:57

Ok so lollipops are not my strongest point as the above is more like riddles to me :(
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Re: Grumthorn starts an argument or two

Post by Knetter » 14 Nov 2006 17:21

The error is in this step:
Grumthorn wrote:10N -N = (90 + 900 + 9000 + ....) - 9 -(90 + 900 + 9000 + ....)
The 9 can not be taken out of the brackets, as it is part of an undefined number.
N = ∞ and thus 10N = ∞
∞-∞ is undefined, and does not give a sollution.

Don't know if this makes any sense, but it's the best I could do.
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Post by Dust » 14 Nov 2006 17:23

Maths...

1/9=0.1111...
so 1/9*9=0.99999...=1

so simple...
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Post by Gamberra » 14 Nov 2006 17:27

why 1 or 2 arguments, and not 1 or none?
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